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#20273 - 12/23/19 05:52 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Hi all !
I have an original DM 800 HD se receiver (sim A8P) .
can i use sim japhar on it ?
sim Japhar is nc3 v5 , the one presented above

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#20274 - 12/23/19 07:18 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Yes, you can "upgrade" your box to the Japhar Sim v6, just removing the chip and putting a simcard support and the Japhar Sim.

You can find all this at http://www.japhar.com/japhar/

Once you receive the sim, let us know and we will help you online to do the swap/switch safely.

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#22116 - 10/15/20 01:12 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Hi all !

I'll be back after about 3 years , all this time I failed to use Japhar sim .
I always get No ca found, or invalid image , because of this I gave up .I currently have another DM 800se ( clone ) receiver , is the rev.D11 sim 2.10
can someone explain to me what is the step by step procedure to put Japhar sim on this receiver ?

P.S. I mention that it is DM800se sim2.10 (possibly V1), not sim 2.2 (V2)

Thank you in advance !

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#22117 - 10/15/20 01:42 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Hello Andry,

Do you still have your DM800HDse V2 ?

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#22118 - 10/15/20 06:09 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Hi "Admin"
I no longer have DM800sev2 .
I have a simple DM800se sim 2.10 , I try to put Japhar on it, but I don't succeed .

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#22119 - 10/15/20 06:20 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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You need to flash the sim for DM800HDse (v1), thru the Plugin Menu JAM.

So you flash the image below, in your box, and immediately after the SSL ALLSIM, you reboot the box and go on the Plugins Menu.

Image : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=18992

ALLSIM : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=290#Post290

And you go in the JAM menu select (if there is no JAM, install it, see instructions below) the second option in the menu, go a the end on the X_FrontPanel for the DM800HDse V1 (OS v6), and flash the sim.

Then you take out from the frontpanel the Japhar Sim and you replace the sim 2.10.

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JAM Installation : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1377
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#22122 - 10/16/20 02:11 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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I have been struggling for about 5 hours, I follow exactly the steps that the "admin" tells him.

At the end I try to put this image (openpli-enigma2-7.2star-dm800se_Japhar_v6_GStreamer_1.17.0.1_20200417), but after Reboot I get No Ca Found.

The image is not OK, what an image to try ?

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#22123 - 10/16/20 02:24 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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You committed at least 2 errors... and didn't done at all what I wrote...

The image on the link is OpenVision 7.2 r18 (v6), and the second link is the ALLSIM SSL. As wrote you just had to flash the image then the ALLSIM SSL, and after reboot.

So you done all different from what was written. If you have the button on the back, then put back the Sim 2.10 is it's not there already, and do again as explained above. You will then have the box in the correct mode, to then use the JAM to flash the Japhar Sim on the frontpanel slot. Japhar Sim that then will be able to be used on DM800HDse V1 boxes (instead of the Sim 2.10), naturally with Japhar images (v3-v5 and v6).

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#22124 - 10/16/20 02:37 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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I followed exactly the steps you said :

Install the image below "openvision-enigma2-develop-7.2-r18-dm800se_Japhar_v6" in the receiver, then do not Reboot receiver, but go back to the page and install "secondstage-dm800se-84-allsim", then restart the receiver , the required minimum settings are made, we enter the Menu >>> Plugins here we look for if we have JAM installed (Japhar Addons Manager, this: japhar-addons-manager_5.2_DM_oe20_mips32el) if it doesn't exist we copy it on a stick, we insert the stick in the receiver and- I install it with the help of the remote control.
After installation we restart the receiver, then enter the JAM menu, select the second menu option (Support Japhar Sim v3-v5-v6), go to the end of X_FrontSlot Sim Flash DM800HDseV1 v6 ​​>>> OK and rewrite sim ....., then turn off the device / receiver and change the sims.

P.S.
After I made all these settings I wanted to put another image, after installing another image it shows me No Ca Found .

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#22125 - 10/16/20 02:57 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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So the process seems ok, but are you sure you seen all the numbers on the TV screen of the programming of the Sim from Japhar DM800HDse V2 to V1 ? Was the received connected on internet when you done that last step as it has to download the data from the JAM Feeds ? You probably had some failure during programming of the sim... did you put it on the right slot as there is 2 on the DM800HDse ? As it uses only the one indicated on the description of the JAM line you selected for Frontpanel programming. The Japhar chip must have the chip below looking down, as well as it must be first inserted.

I believe you failed the programming, and this is why you have such error... if you naturally installed the proper image, that is coming only from our folder below, just to be sure you done all steps right.

Images : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=48&page=1

As you know the section where we are right now is ONLY for the original images/box/A8P sim. So an image on this section WILL NOT work on the DM800HDse with Japhar Sim. This could be also the problem.

So you have two possible reasons, the programming failed, or wrong image used (naturally if we consider and we are sure you properly inserted the Japhar Sim instead of the Sim 2.10).

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#22126 - 10/16/20 03:25 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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It looks like I succeeded, I'll try again tomorrow

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#22127 - 10/16/20 07:03 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Hi ...Thanks for the help !

In the meantime I checked some firmware, they are OK .
That didn't work : OpenPLi-5.0-Plus_IPTV-dm800se_Trial-Triple-Tuner-by_Japhar_Daily_v4-BETA
I mention that I also have a triple tuner, I can use it on the receiver whenever I want ,
but now it didn't work .

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#22128 - 10/16/20 07:17 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Yes, as mentionned the images v3-v5 and v6 will work (not v4beta). For the v4beta you would need to have the OS v4 in the sim, that was a beta software... that gave then birth to the v5 and v6 that are better.

You can get the v4beta image working as v6 replacing the bcm7405.ko file in the /lib/modules/..../extra folder by the one that is on a working image.

For the Triple/Test Tuner, you can install on most images the drivers for it from the section : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2606#Post2606

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#22140 - 10/17/20 08:05 AM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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good morning all !!!

First of all, thank you to all those who were very helpful.
Is this Triple tuner driver ( tripletuner_2.0b-OpenPLi-4.0-Japhar_all ) can be used on other V1 firmware ?

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#22141 - 10/17/20 10:59 AM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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It should work on all images, if the image is compatible Test/Triple tuner yes.

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#22146 - 10/20/20 12:51 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Hi all .... !!!

On some firmware it works well, on others it does not see the dvb-c, dvb-t2 tuner, it's not the problem, so far everything is fine.

With this Japhar sim can you go from V1 to V2 ?

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#22147 - 10/20/20 12:55 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Hello,

The Trial/Triple tuner driver (in fact it's 1 tuner, and you use 1 only, cannot use 3 simultaneously) is not compatible with all images. There is a trick setting up the xml file inside, to avoir this issue, you have all explained on that tuner posts on the Driver section.

See : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=9539

Personally I prefer to have a single Sat Tuner on the box, and a USB Tuner (Terrestrial) on the USB port, this way I have real 2 x Tuner.

For the difference of the v1 and v2, it's hardware differences, more RAM and more Flash... On v2 you have 512 Mb Flash and 1 Gb RAM... on v1 you have 64 Mb Flash, 128 Mb or 256 RAM. So changing the sim/software will not upgrade a v1 into a v2 as it's hardware related.

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#22158 - 10/20/20 06:27 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Hi all !
Thanks for the very good answers , I used that trick on DM800se sim 2.2, I didn't like it.
I use Vu+solo2 tuner on usb ( GENIATECH MyGica USB TV tuner Stick T230C DVB-C T2 DVB-T HD ) , works very well .
The same tuner on the DM800se does not want to work , I installed the driver, I put it in and it doesn't want to be manually ..... under any circumstances .

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#22160 - 10/20/20 06:29 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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If it doesn't want to work, then the image is not compatible, with the tuner/driver. You should change image to find one compatible... or your trial/triple tuner is defective.

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#22161 - 10/20/20 06:40 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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I remember that on DM800se sim2.2 I had the same problems, but with DreamElite firmware it worked.

In the coming days I will try other firmware, to find something that is ok.

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#22162 - 10/20/20 07:03 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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There is two different families of images, the DMM and the Open (OpenPLi/OpenATV etc).

The DreamElite is a DMM such as Nemesis, NewNigma2, etc.

The driver was destinated to the DMM images, but it worked on some Open (but not always, the trick of the satellites.xml file was useful).

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#22171 - 10/21/20 06:57 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Hellooo !!!
I understand, thanks for the good information .
do you have firmware from the DMM range ?

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#22172 - 10/21/20 07:03 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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You will find below all images for DM800HDse V2 with Japhar Sim,

http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=49&page=1

On that list you have Open images (OpenPLi, OpenATV, PurE2, BlackHole, etc), and DMM images such as NewNigma2.

For original box, you have here images, but none are for DMM... http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=171&page=1

DMM support stopped many years ago for the DM800HDseV2, and the enigma2 is at least 5-6 years old, and perhaps even more...

Open images (including the enigma2 for open images) are very new, still from 2020.

Generally the patch is not too difficult if you have images for other sim for DM800HDse V2, you need to replace the SSL (flash image and flash the SSL for your sim, eg SSL89J for Japhar) and the bcm7405.ko file in /lib/modules/.../extra.

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#22178 - 10/24/20 02:15 PM Re: DM800HDse v2 clone [Re: BytePir8]
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Hi all !!!
Thanks "Admin" , very good information .

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