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#24420 - 04/23/22 03:25 PM Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione!
enzo.57 Offline
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Buon giorno a tutti amici,

Admin sto combattendo con i mulini a vento con questo Decoder avra provato con qualsiasi Imaggine a disposizione!

Dopo poco tempo devo riavviarlo attendere che esce sul display l'Indirizzo IP!

E ricaricare un'immagine!

Ma dove sbaglio e da pazzi!

Visto che il decoder e Originale cosa posso caricarci sopra Admin e che funzioni senza che il decodere si blocchi!

Ci potrebbe esserci una causa che lo fa bloccare?

Forse e una domanda stupida questa ma se non la faccio resto con il dubbio se non te la faccio!

Ma si puo come dire "Formattare,Cancellare" la memoria e quindi far sparire gli errori che restano nel decoder?

L'ho sparata grande Admin?

Ciao enzo.57

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#24421 - 04/23/22 03:35 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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Could be a psu issue, maybe bad caps.

Google translate..
Potrebbe essere un problema di alimentazione, forse condensatori difettosi.
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#24422 - 04/23/22 04:35 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: Johnny_B]
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Ciao Johnny,

grazie per la risposta!

Ma in questo caso dovrebbe apparire sul display la scritta "ERROR" o no!


Ciao enzo.57

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#24423 - 04/23/22 05:42 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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Not always, Error on display can have many causes, including a non-working SIM card.

The description you give gives me the idea that it could be an unstable voltage, often related to outdated caps of the psu.

Google translate...
Non sempre, l'errore sul display può avere molte cause, inclusa una scheda SIM non funzionante.

La descrizione che mi dai mi dà l'idea che possa trattarsi di un voltaggio instabile, spesso legato a cappucci del psu obsoleti.
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#24424 - 04/23/22 07:25 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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OK Johnny visto la tua esperienza ti dico grazie del tuo suggerimento e faro un controllo dettagliato e vedro cosa ne esce fuori!

Ciao e buona serata!

Enzo.57


Ciao Johnny

Buona Domenica.

Ho pulit per bene il drimbox ho notato qualche segno non di bruciatura su dei condensatori!
"ERROR"

Ho spento e rimesso la sim Japhar e si e riacceso ma adesso continua sempre a riavviarsi e quindi non va a buon fine qualsiasi image ci metto sopra, niente da fare!


Coa si potrebbe fare per riattivarlo?


Ciao e Buona Domenica

Enzo.57


Edited by enzo.57 (04/24/22 08:57 AM)

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#24425 - 04/24/22 02:19 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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Keeps restarting, often related to bad caps, and often the power supply caps.
The solution is to replace them, or if you are lucky to replace the entire psu.

When in doubt, show a good photo of the psu, often it is noticeable.

Google translate...
Continua a riavviarsi, spesso correlato a condensatori difettosi e spesso ai condensatori di alimentazione.
La soluzione è sostituirli o, se si è fortunati a trovare un vecchio stock, sostituire l'intero alimentatore.

Nel dubbio, mostra una buona foto dell'alimentatore, spesso è evidente.
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#24426 - 04/24/22 03:24 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: Johnny_B]
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Replaced all the power supply block and the other mainboard of the Dreambox that I disassembled to spare parts because I blew all the tin contacts of the sim3 Japhar socket!

I also replaced the sim3!

Now it's trying to load: Blackhole and installed without problem but I didn't keep it because I don't like that Image!

With openesi 8.0 and 8.5, openli 8.0,8.1,8.5 does not go it always crashes and if I manage to install it all after a few minutes of viewing, it crashes and I have to restart!

I'll let you know with other images what happens!



But Jonnhy thinking about it, that mainboard I took apart and the one that sent me on tilt!

Because I did everything and a month of work to be able to get rid of that cursed writing on the display: ERROR!

And slowly I came to have it completely destroyed with all the tests I did!

What do you think I should do now?

And if I have to change the capacitors where to buy them and which ones?

Hello enzo. 57

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#24427 - 04/24/22 09:34 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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Capacitors can be purchased from many sellers.
I usually buy them from aliexpress, or ebay, and otherwise digikey.
Usually I choose the Rubycon brand, or other well-known brands such as Philips and Panasonic or sometimes the cheaper one.

Concerning your problem, if the replacement of the psu and whether the caps are replaced does not help, then it may be the motherboard.
Then it becomes difficult because it can be caused by various things.
One is the nand chip, the memory block, or worse the cpu, possibly bad outdated solder.

I think it's best to try using a terminal program like putty in rs232 serial mode to attempt to see when/why it goes wrong.
For that you need an rs232 db9 null modem cable, an rs232 usb to db9 serial cable is also possible.
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#24428 - 04/25/22 07:23 AM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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imedia Support.
Code: 0x1800f, and the installation bar of the decoder advances comes to the end and the decoder restarts the TV becoming all green.

What can I do to fix it?

If I want to install another image it does it but after restarting the decoder everything always restarts and the TV turns green!


Hi Enzo.57

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#24429 - 04/25/22 02:50 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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When searching for..
dm8000hd Code: 0x1800f issue

Seems to be mainly related to openpli, and (the tuner) drivers.
But on the other hand, reading further i see some who claims it's related to the Authenticity test (the "genuine" plugin).

Anyhow, it's basically a clone versus original software/drivers issue.
And I think that Toysoft may know more of this issue.
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#24430 - 04/25/22 03:06 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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Try to see if this happens without any tuner card and antenna connected to the tuner of the box,

Also remove all addons like USB Dongles, HDD, DVD/CD Drive, just to have only the motherboard powered up.

Does it still freezes/reboots after the start is finished ?

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#24431 - 04/25/22 05:54 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: Admin]
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Hi Admin I tried to upload the Image:
Openli 8.5

and everything went fine until configuration!

But I couldn't make the settings properly, because my granddaughter wants to watch TV!

I tried to configure from the display!

Then I rebooted and with the sim inside and with the Eternet cable it stuck in the middle of the display!

Without anything even without the sim3 japhar the message comes out: Error!

I put the sim3 back and it stuck the display bar halfway and halfway!

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#24432 - 04/25/22 08:25 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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Reinstall and do the setup properly,

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#24433 - 04/27/22 10:06 AM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: Admin]
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Hello Admin,

I redid the installation and finally the decoder works and it is possible to see the TV!


But now the fact still remains that it often crashes and sometimes changes the channel again!

But very often it crashes and I have to turn off the decoder to go back to watching TV!

Now I am inexperienced in technical problems I ask you Admin please:

To do a perfect job and make no mistake what is the exact procedure that must be adopted to solve the image block problem!

Before uploading an image you must upload a file of the type:

secondstage-dm8000-84_allsim and after upload the image?

Or is it wrong?

And I always remind you Admin that I always carry out these operations on a: Dreambox 8000 HD Original!


Hi Admin,

and I always thank you for the technical support and for your patience!


Hi Enzo. 57

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#24434 - 04/27/22 11:48 AM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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The SSL is built in the image, so you don't need to flash it before or after the image, as the image already has it inside.

There is sometimes the option of Bad Sector Recovery that could fix problems, you can find details on the topic : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3137#Post3137

This option above works and needs to be activated, before flashing the image, then you will have to flash the image and it will "clean the Flash memory" checking the bad sectors.

You could also do a Reset of the Bios, sometimes it could fix some issues, the link of the topic is : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5234#Post5234

If it fails (with a Green Screen), generally you have a log file saved on the HDD that will allow to understand where exactly it failed. The last part/block of the log of it shows the exact issue.

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#24437 - 05/03/22 08:38 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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Good Evening Admin,

I must say that I have solved all these problems that I encountered while programming the two Dreambox 8000!
Thanks to you and who else gave useful tips to understand what to do!

I will take this into account for the next problems I will have!

Anyway now the last piece of the puzzle is this: Can Japhar's NC3 sim be reprogrammed?

I have to try to reprogram it and if I can't then this Sim NC3 is burned!

Good evening everyone and thanks again for the help!

Enzo. 57

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#24438 - 05/03/22 09:26 PM Re: Dreambox 8000 HD Originale si blocca la visione! [Re: enzo.57]
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The Japhar Sim is reprogrammable, you have all software in the forum, and explanations. It's important to program it for the box you want to use it for, with the Japhar Sim OS for that box. See the smartcard reader section as well as the OS files on the Japhar Box section you want to use it for.

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