Thanks for the quick reply admin, i tried an old frankensky skin which worked with vix and 2 Kiddac sky skins but as i say my menu is a little box,and channel list the same in the centre of the screen, its one of the sly skins i am after but cant get any to work correctly, the pre-installed ones do work but they are just a little dark.

Image is great btw,well done to all involved.

Be great if someone could point me in the right direction for a sky or blue skin that will work with open pli 4.0v2

Many thanks